The Distance

The Distance

My Interview With Apostate Radio

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Matt Osborne
Jan 16, 2026
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A few months ago, I was invited to talk to Isaiah Carter and Nino Chavéz of Apostate Radio. Isaiah called me several years ago frantically trying to understand what had happened to the Democratic Party and the progressive left. Like most Americans, he had missed the sinister shift to pronoun authoritarianism and only just realized something was off. His political and personal transformation was profound. He shares an interest in professional soccer with Nino and they both deplored the wokening of sports. We had a wide-ranging discussion about the transgender phenomenon.

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